Holly and Mando, the owner and surfboard shaper behind Mando Surf Co. based on the Central Coast of California, dive into the craft of shaping boards, exploring how design can better serve women and smaller-bodied surfers. They also chat about alternative surf crafts and the joy of experimenting with new sensations in the water. Their conversation unpacks the often-controversial dynamics of surf etiquette in the lineup, offering candid insights into how the culture of surfing is evolving toward greater inclusivity and respect.