In this conversation, Emma, podcast producer and SWA instructor, shares her experience as an environmental advocate supported by Surf With Amigas. She recently attended the United Nations Plastic Pollution Treaty Negotiations in Busan, South Korea, where delegates from 175 countries sought to find a solution to reducing global plastic pollution. We discuss her experience there and some major takeaways from the event, including the challenges of navigating environmental issues, the bureaucracy of large-scale legislative change, and greenwashing. Finally, we emphasize the need for hope, collaboration, and clear communication when moving forward with these issues. We challenge listeners to think about how they can create effective change and reduce plastic pollution in their personal lives.